Does the order of tables in a join matter, when LEFT (outer) joins are used?

Question

I would like to confirm that the SQL query

SELECT ....
  FROM apples,
       oranges
       LEFT JOIN kiwis ON kiwis.orange_id = oranges.id,
       bananas
          


        

Answer 1

It is the same but it is ambiguous as hell with the implicit CROSS JOINs. Use explicit JOINS.

If you are joining in the WHERE clause then the results may differ because joins and filters are mixed up.

SELECT ....
  FROM apples a
       JOIN
       bananas b ON ...
       JOIN 
       oranges o ON ...
       LEFT JOIN
       kiwis k ON k.orange_id = o.id
 WHERE (filters only)

Notes:

• INNER JOINS and CROSS JOINS are commutative and associative: order does not matter usually.
• OUTER JOINS are not, which you identified
• SQL is declarative: you tell the optimiser what you want, not how to do it. This removes JOIN order considerations (subject to the previous 2 items)